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This is Miriam Domínguez at the Jersey City Memory Project. Today is Wednesday, June 25th or 2025. I am interviewing Joe Lemise. Good afternoon, Joe. Please introduce yourself. Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=7.0,21.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Good afternoon. My name is Joe Lemise. It's actually Joseph, but I go by Joe. I like Joe. I like things pretty simple, although life's not simple. It's very complicated. But my name is Joe Laise. I'm a school teacher here in Jersey City. I teach special education. I've been teaching in Jersey City for 20 years, and I was born in Jersey City, but I didn't really grow up in Jersey City. I moved around a lot, which we can get into later. But I've been teaching special ed for the last 20 years, and I teach ESL in the afternoons a couple nights a week at the learning center for the library. And I taught ESL before that. I taught ESL a couple summers for the Jersey City Public Schools summer school. And I also taught ESL for about 10 years before I became a public school teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=21.0,86.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So you were born in Jersey City and you work in Jersey City now? Yes. Where do you live now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=86.0,92.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I live now in Sea Caucus, which is Hudson County. It's the next town over, and I grew up pretty much in North Bergen, but my family always lived in Jersey City. My extended family always, I always had family in Jersey City, so we would always go back and forth, but I guess born here, but raised in Hudson County and then I moved around. Even after that, my parents were divorced, so I moved around a lot. But I would say, yeah, Hudson County, it's pretty much where I grew up. Okay,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=92.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And where you live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=130.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=131.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: You teach a special education in which school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=133.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I teach special education in PS 22, which is in Lafayette section of Jersey City. And I mostly taught early childhood, but I've taught second grade, and this year I taught third grade learning disabled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=136.0,155.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And you had experience, prior experience teaching ESL and now you're teaching ESL for the learning center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=155.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=162.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So could you share a little bit about your experience as a teacher and that contrast between doing primary special education and teaching English as a second language to adults?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=162.0,175.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Very different. Yes. That's a good question. So teaching ESLI always found fun and exciting. I like language arts, I like linguistics, I like languages. I like meeting foreigners and talking to foreigners and learning about foreign countries. So I always was open to, I had never lived abroad when I was younger, but I was always, I had that wanderlust we call where you just want to wander around the world experiencing different cultures. So when I was in college, I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to do, but then I had met some foreigners and then ESL was an interesting avenue that I looked into, but I didn't completely go down that avenue. I finished my degree, my bachelor's degree in international business,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=175.0,244.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: But I didn't like business. So then I became an ESL teacher and I traveled, I traveled to Japan, so I taught ESL in Japan. I first started teaching here in New Jersey. I taught in a couple private schools and then I taught, then I went to Japan and I taught ESL in Japan. I taught all levels. I taught college level at my one. The last job I had there, I was teaching freshmen and sophomore college students, and I also taught adult conversation and I also taught children and junior high school as well. So it was a great experience living in Japan, teaching English in Japan. So that made me even love ESL more and want to do it for a career. But when I came back to the states, it was harder to, was harder for me to procure a position in ESL. So special ed was easier. There was more a greater demand for special ed teachers. So I became a special ed teacher. And yes, it's drastically different from ESL and just teaching young people in America is very different from teaching ESL because I think the biggest difference is you have people who want to learn ESL pretty much. You have people who want to learn, and then when you're teaching public schools, you have students who don't want to learn. And it's just a greater challenge","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=244.0,348.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Teaching students who don't want to learn or have behavioral issues. So teaching ESL, I never noticed any major behavioral issues. I mean, in middle school and college, some of the students, some of the kids were, they were funny and they fooled around, but pretty much they all wanted to learn and they were all well bathed. So it's a vast difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=348.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So which year were you in Japan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=383.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I was in Japan when I finished college, I went to Japan from 94 to 95, maybe 96, about a year, a little more than a year. And then I came home. I came home to spend a little time with my ailing brother, had a brother who was sick. He passed away in 1997. I'm sorry. And then after that I felt that I wasn't done with my life in Japan, so I went back to Japan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=386.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: And spent four years. First time was only one year. Then the second time I spent four years. And honestly, the second time was a more serious trip. The first time when you first get to another country, you're learning and you're exploring. It's just the cultural eye awakening and fun and exciting. So then when I went back after that, I took it a little more seriously and I took the teaching more seriously. And that's where I met my wife as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=435.0,484.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Then I came home here just to secure a full-time job with benefits and everything. Because teaching ESL abroad, no, it's not. I mean, yeah, there's no benefits.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=484.0,504.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: No benefits, yes. So the first and the second time in Japan, were you at the same place? Which town in Japan were you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=504.0,512.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Working in? When I first went to Japan, I was in Tokyo. And then the second time I went, I was in Omi, which is just north of Tokyo. But then I moved back down to near Tokyo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=512.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's where your wife comes from originally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=530.0,533.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: No, she's from the countryside of Western Japan. She's from a farm. She's from, her parents are farmers, rice farmers, so they have rice fields and it's very bucolic. It's extreme countryside. She's from the countryside, but she lived in Tokyo. Like most young people, the city is a magnet for work,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=533.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Especially country, relatively small.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=568.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Japan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=570.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=571.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah. And it's pretty interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=574.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And have you been back to Japan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=578.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Ever","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=580.0,581.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Since?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=581.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: After I got my job here in the States, I went back to Japan to get my wife. I didn't bring her here with me. I came back home to make sure I got everything to make sure I could secure my secure job. And then I went back to get her six months later, and then I brought her back here, and then the rest is history about that. She stayed, we got married, had kids, and then yes, we traveled to Japan every other year. We would go every other year","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=584.0,618.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: To Japan to see our folks, but not anymore. We did that for about 10 years when the kids were young. But yeah, it's been, she goes back once in a while now, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=618.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: We don't really, my daughter's in college and my kids, they're older and it's hard to get over there every other year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=631.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=639.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Then also COVID slowed us down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=639.0,641.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah, that was, yeah, general reason everyone around the world was stopped by that, by the pandemic. Absolutely. So you live here in Hudson County, you teach in Jersey City. You were born in Jersey City as a matter of fact. And you started your career as a teacher, as an ESL teacher. Think you came here. You came back from Japan, and after your stint there, you started a family and now you are back into teaching ESL,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=641.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: You were doing a special ed at the Jersey City Public School. So how did you take it back, the ESL, how you started","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=678.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Again? I'm so excited about this. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=690.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: How long","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=692.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: It has been, it's been about a year, a year and a half. I mean, I showed interest in it a couple years ago. I was going to come down and volunteer. I had heard about the program. I even had checked with my town and I was going to volunteer in Seacaucus, but the timing wasn't right and I was very busy at the time and very busy. And then when I met Eric Trader, then I told him that I do have time and he said he told me more about the program and that it expanded and then that there's a position up in the heights, which is close to my house. So it worked out really well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=693.0,740.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: And I jumped on the fact that I could teach ESL again. Long story short is I tried to teach ESL in the school system in Jersey City. I tried to get back into SL. Once I got my job and I was in special ed, I tried to talk to my bosses and everybody and say, I want to teach E ESS l, I want to get back into ESL. But it was just so complicated and I don't want to want throw Jersey City Public Schools under the bus right now. I don't want to talk disclose too much, but it was just very complicated and hard to move. It's hard to make to have mobility in the Jersey City public school system. So I wasn't able to teach TSL in the school system. They really don't have a high demand in E for ESL. They do more bilingual","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=740.0,799.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Unfortunately, I feel unfortunately. So anyway, I couldn't do ESL for the school system, but then I found out about this and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=799.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I’m so happy to be here and to have students who want to learn English and to have a class full of, I call my class the United Nations. Everybody comes from different countries. It's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=809.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So these are adults. You mentioned that you have been teaching elementary school and this past year, third grade. So we have the different subject. It's not special ed, but it's CSL and it's CSL to adults. So how has been your experience teaching adults in Japan? You were teaching people of all ages and in their own country. Now you're teaching people who speak other languages and our adults and are trying, they need English to live their lives here. So how that has been for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=827.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I actually probably prefer teaching adults. I noticed in the school system, in the classroom this year with the third graders especially, like I said before, I was mostly doing early childhood. So younger kids because of my size, my voice, I'm a soft spoken person. I have a soft spoken voice. And I also speaking voice and I have difficulty controlling the children. Of course, I have my classroom management skills and my teaching voice, and I'm commanding respect and everything. But still within the Jersey City public school system, a lot of times the urban children, they have challenges respecting certain people of certain individuals. And I find that no matter what I do, it's always a challenge to me to control them. So I've been enjoying the adults. I love teaching adults because I can communicate with them, I can speak openly. I joke around and have fun. So yeah, I really like teaching adults.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=866.0,949.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So could you share how is a day in one of your classes of ESL classes? What do you do? Any of your groups, you have people from all over the world, so what are the challenges or that challenges the funny things or any things that can happen in one class in two hours?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=949.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, that's a good question. I like to start with some icebreakers and just some fun stuff or review or some vocabulary. Maybe we'll do a little game on the whiteboard, either, I don't know, I'll do hot seat or hangman. We use the whiteboard and you have some words on the board or a word on the board. We'll do charades, something like that. We'll start with that and then get into the meat of the lesson. But things we do as well, I always give them as much, encourage them to speak as much as we can. I try to make it student centered. Sometimes they just want to talk about their day or the weekend or something. So we do that. I always allow time to deviate from the lesson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=969.0,1033.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: And my students can be very generous. Sometimes they'll bring things in. They'll bring empanadas or something from their country, or sometimes they come in late, they're working, they're busy, they're hot, they're tired. So we take a little time to get started, and then the two hours goes so quickly. Sometimes they don't want to leave. It's almost, we're surprised it's over. And I'm like, oh, they're going to lock the building. Sorry, we have to leave. But yeah, we're usually the last ones in the building, my group. And as far as any challenges or some more excitement, I was going to say with the culture, sometimes my students come in with, they'll have traditional clothing on during Ramadan or during E, it was before E or something. Or they'll have traditional Muslim clothing on, and we'll talk about that sometimes. We'll see if we can fit that into our lessons. We have lessons on shopping and clothing and returning clothes and things like that, and does it fit, and things like that. So describing clothing. So that's good. When they come in with that, it's right there. It's realia. I love using real things and using real people and real things to start conversations. I mean, that's the best better than looking in the book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1033.0,1144.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: So that's helpful. I've found that that works. That's useful. Sometimes that happens. That's one thing that happens in the classroom. That's nice when you have different people and different cultures and you can incorporate it in to the lesson. That's great. Or to the learning experience. And as far as challenges, not too many challenges maybe sometimes. I might speak a little, I really, I'm not a fast speaker, but even my native English, when I'm speaking with Americans, I speak slowly, but maybe sometimes I might speak fast. So they'll be like, just one more. I'd say it again, please. Or sometimes I write, I like to write a lot. I write a lot on the board, and sometimes I write a little sloppy or they can't finish it and I'm ready to erase it. So they've taken on their cameras and take a picture, which is nice. That helps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1144.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: So I like that we just have a whiteboard, but if we have a smartboard, if we had a smartboard, I guess I could just save those notes and stuff like that. And sometimes we'll put on background music and sometimes we'll talk about music and their music and I can't, no other real big challenges. I know that was one of the questions was any cultural, there was one time where the students really enjoy too. They like to get to know us. So they ask about me and my family, and I tell them, sometimes they'll ask about, my wife and I like to joke around, so I try to get them to laugh. I always like to get them to laugh. So I'll joke around about my wife or I'll tease my wife and they'll be like, your wife's going to get mad at you. Something like that. But one time they asked me, because I don't wear rings, I don't wear jewelry. And my wife actually doesn't wear her ring either. None of us both. That's one thing I have in comment with my wife. She doesn't wear earrings. No, I don't wear wash. But they asked me, they said, you keep talking about your wife. How come you don't have a ring? They were confused.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1210.0,1309.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: So I explained to them that it's not a hard fast rule. It's not like I used to have an A on your arm for adultery, whatever, or you didn't have to, or Coptic people. Maybe they have to have the cross and maybe some people might have to have the rosary beat or this or that, but it's not it. It's very broad and open. And we have a very broad and open American society. People all think differently and do differently, and they have different customs. So that was interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1309.0,1352.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Well, you mentioned that it is like the United Nations, and you have lived most of your life in Hudson County, which is very diverse. Jersey City, two North Bergen. And what are the changes that you have seen in the migration pattern? Have you met teaching ESL people from countries that you haven't met before here in Hudson County where there are a lot of foreigners too,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1352.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Right, definitely. That's a great question. I could go back to when I first started, it was all with Japanese were ubiquitous, they were Japanese all over the place, and then they were replaced with the Koreans and then now Chinese. And even when I taught, I taught in Manhattan for a short time, only six months. I taught in NYLS, New York Language School, NYLS on Broadway and a hundred and third Street. When I taught there, I had students from mostly Latinos, of course, mostly Hispanics, south America, central America. But I also taught students from Africa. There were some African students that were starting to become popular. And then Polish. I had a Polish student in my classroom, so that was new for me. When I went to Manhattan, I was so used to teaching only mostly Asians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1380.0,1445.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, mostly Asians, all Asians, Japanese and Koreans. And then later on, like I said, in New York, I was more exposed to, of course, I mean in Latinos, when I taught here as well, I taught in an ESL school in West New York. And all my students were Latin, Latin Americans. But now I've noticed, and in my current classroom as well, many more Chinese, many more African. So I have students from Chad and also North African as well. Bourbon, I think they're called Ber Berber from Nigeria. Morocco. Ber. Ber, yep. So North Africans, some I wouldn't know, maybe Sub-Saharan, I'm not sure. But Chad and some other Africans, Nigeria, Cameroon, and some of the more, maybe not so famous, maybe I say, I don't want to say developing, maybe, I don't want to say anything derogatory, but some of them were developing nations in too. I've had students from Miramar, Nepal, Miramar, Nepal. And then we had, of course, Vietnam. Southeast Asian. Yes, Southeast Asian. So yeah, there has been a big change in the influx. Oh, and I'm sorry. Yes. And a lot of Muslims now. A lot of Arabic, a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1445.0,1554.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Egyptians nd Moroccan we said, but mostly a lot of Egyptians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1554.0,1562.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So people are speaking so many languages, so many different languages with different origins. So what are some challenges that you encounter when you are teaching a Spanish speaker and Berber speaker, an Arabic speaker, Burmese or a Chinese speaker? How do you manage that in the classroom? Or have you seen any clash in that? It doesn't have to be negative, but just No,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1562.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I got you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1588.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: In terms of methodology and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1589.0,1592.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: In terms of methodology, I don't see any, yeah, I don't think I've come across any, I didn't have to adapt or change anything. I guess what I mean is what I'm trying to say is yes, there has been some clash, but nothing negative, just some minor stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1592.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: But that's more with 'em, internalizing or digesting the language that's being taught. So for example, sometimes I'll hear for, let's say I'm teaching something about, I don't know, clothing or something like that, and we're talking about a particular garment or an accessory, and they're confused with what the word is. Sometimes it may be not in the book. A lot of times I'll add to the book, I'll put different words. I'll add, expand the vocabulary. So I'll write it on the board, for example, because at first they won't understand me, or someone might understand me because in Spanish it's similar. So then they'll start speaking Spanish to the other Spanish people, and then the Muslims, Arabic speakers will be like, we still don't get it. And then the French will say, oh, okay, I get it. Because the French speakers, they sounds like Spanish or something, or it's similar to English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1622.0,1697.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: It's similar to English. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1697.0,1700.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: So I guess what I'm trying to say is there's little elements. Sometimes the Spanish people might sit here and the Muslims, the A Arabic speakers will sit here, and then my Chinese would be a little bit separate from them. Not separate, but I mean in their own little. For example, these three might be sitting together, and then Chinese and then Spanish three on the other side. So it's fun. Sometimes they'll say, oh, this is how you say it in Spanish. And they'll shout it across and then they'll be like, oh, this is how we say it in Arabic. And they'll shout it across. But then the Chinese will be like, no","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1700.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Further away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1744.0,1745.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Right? Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1745.0,1746.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: The origin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1746.0,1747.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: But as far as the methodology, methodology, I feel they're learning ESL and they're learning English. I'm going to introduce it the same to all of them. If there's any cultural elements to it, then of course I will tweak it or modify it or explain it, especially if there's any, I dunno, I dunno, cultural barriers or anything. But if there's anything that's like a cultural twist to it or something that this culture would have and this culture wouldn't, then yeah, I will explain that or modify it that way. But as far as just exposing a language, I wait until they question me. I give it, I treat them all equally, and I treat them all As E Es, LELL, learners, English Language learners. And I know, of course, certain letters are different from others, but that's when they're feeding it back to me, RL or a B or a th. That might be difficult for certain individuals, but when I express it and say it, I'm going to say it the way that I believe it should be said. But yeah, it's fun. It's a great experience. And the students all bring something to the table. They all bring, like we said, they're all bringing their ideas and their culture and their language and their take on the language once they finally understand the word. And sometimes they'll have to translate it, then once they make the connection, they're like, ah, you can see the light. And there's a light that goes off and it's exciting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1747.0,1880.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's very cool. Speaking of these cultural differences, and you, you're treating them all as English language learners, but one of the things that many teachers run across as a difficulty in teaching any language is idiomatic expressions. So you can know literally what each world means. I want to take this shirt off. I'm okay, that's fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1880.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Okay, so sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1908.0,1911.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Oh, no, take your time. I can cut that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1911.0,1914.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Alright, I'm listening. So idiomatic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1914.0,1917.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah, so let me, if you don't mind, please. Okay. I think that's okay. So idiomatic expressions,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1917.0,1930.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Idiomatic expressions. They might know what each word means. They can look it up, you can tell them, but that meeting might not come across as intended. Do you have any stories or anything you've tried to explain or some confusion that has been brought to your attention?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1930.0,1949.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, that's a great question. There's a fun story I think, if I can remember correctly. Yeah. Idioms can be a lot of fun and very challenging. When I was teaching, this is years ago when I was teaching the teaching, the little ones, I was teaching maybe third or fourth grade Japanese students. And we were doing some idioms, and I don't know if this, there's a lot of fun thing you can do with idioms. And I don't remember if the story came first and the story was the impetus for us to come up with the idea of drawing idioms or if it was reversed, I don't remember. Or we were drawing them. And then the story came up, but one little boy drew a picture. He was doing the idiom. It caused an arm and a leg, and he drew a picture of a guy in a wheelchair with a detachable arm and a detachable leg, and he's handing the leg and the arm over the counter to pay for something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=1949.0,2027.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2027.0,2028.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: It cost an arm and a leg. So here you go, here's an arm. And he is,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2028.0,2033.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Of course, as you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2033.0,2034.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Do, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2034.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Need to pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2036.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, that was really,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2037.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Oh, okay. So that's one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2039.0,2043.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, that was impressive. That was,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2043.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So your student believed that that was, or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2047.0,2053.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: He couldn't have believed that, right? But he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2053.0,2058.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Depicted it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2058.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Very literally. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I don't think he actually did believe that, but he depicted that. But that does happen. I mean, maybe with some other idioms they can't grasp meaning because like you said, the literal meaning is so different than they are always challenging. But I think it's so much fun. I love that kind of language and I love to try to teach it, but it's not always easy. Metaphors and metaphorical language, figurative language and all of that stuff, and idioms and phrases and sayings. I even sometimes we'll do jokes like a little joke, knock joke or riddle, a little riddle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2059.0,2114.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: How do they land the knock, knock cha,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2114.0,2117.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Knock, knock. Not very good. But the riddles they take, the riddles are cuter and nicer. So for example, I'm often round, but not always round. I can be white or I can be white and bright, or I can be, or you can't see me, or I can be dark. What am I? Something like that. The moon, right? That's the moon. Okay. I'm round, but not always. Or when you see me, I'm not always, but yeah, so riddles like that, things like that. Some of them they take really well because it makes so much sense even in any language","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2117.0,2159.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Riddles,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2159.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Like the towel riddle, I think. For example, what gets wet as it dries or something like that, A towel or whatever. Something like that. So they go over well. And as far as idioms, I always start with because I like that kind of language myself. I like poetry and I like colorful language. So I work on them a lot with adjectives and descriptive language. I'll do, I'll start with adjectives before I go into idioms or So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2160.0,2195.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: You enjoy poetry. Do you read poetry write or?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2195.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes. Yeah, not so much. Not with the students. I mean, I've done it with some advanced students. I've read a little bit of poetry or exposed them, a little poetry. But personally, yeah, I write things down. I don't know if it's poetry or not, but I write a little things down here and there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2203.0,2233.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And is there any writer who helps you out with ESL that you have brought to the classroom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2233.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: That's a good question. You know what? Wow, I don't think if I could come with anyone off hand right now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2241.0,2253.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: It's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2253.0,2254.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Alright. But I can tell you the program here in Jersey City at the public library and the learning center is incredible and the people behind it, one thing I have learned and learned a lot about recently compared to when I first started teaching ESL, we were just using books. But there's so many more materials now and there's so many more modalities, there's so many more things you can be doing with them and to teach them, to get them to speak and to get them to enjoy learning English. So all the games and the activities and the apps and everything on internet, and there's YouTube stuff, there's everything. I mean, even I would say one person I've learned a lot from the last year is Eric,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2254.0,2321.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Eric Trader and the program here, like I said, because it's so well developed and there's so many different facets of presenting the material. So that's one thing I have, I could say I've been influenced by is the new ways and new methods and new methodologies of teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2321.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And so you encountered the use of tools like Quizlet for instance, or all these apps","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2349.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: To be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2355.0,2356.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That you didn't have when you started teaching as a good tools?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2356.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Exactly,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2361.0,2362.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2362.0,2362.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes, that's it, exactly. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2362.0,2366.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And how do the students take on it? Which levels are you teaching now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2366.0,2371.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I'm teaching the level one, so I'm teaching the early on the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2371.0,2376.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Beginners. So for the beginners, are they all comfortable with their cell phones and computers or you have found any problem that you need to supplement? Also, some technology education in addition to ESL,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2376.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: They are all comfortable with their phones and technology. Sometimes some of them maybe have a couple older South American women who are a little bit more challenged with the technology, but everybody helps each other. And so no, they are open to it. And I was going to say before, even as English speakers, I can't think of the right words myself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2397.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: I kind of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2440.0,2440.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Teach the right words most of the time. They are receptive. Yeah, they're receptive to the technology. Oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2440.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2449.0,2450.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Which is good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2450.0,2451.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yes. So you teach them, but you learn a lot from them too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2451.0,2458.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I do, yes. Tell sometimes I'll have, yeah, okay. Sometimes I'll have something on the screen because my computer's plugged into the screen and then I'll have something plugged in on the screen and then they can't see it in the back, so I'll be rolling the screen closer to them and they'll be like, no, just click here, click here and click there, and you could make it bigger. So they're teaching me how to enlarge things and how to work with certain, do certain, because like I said, yeah, I'm a bit older and I didn't start with this technology, so that's a big learning curve for me. But again, it's a great influence and I'm in a great, yeah, it makes teaching easier and better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2458.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I'm trying to think what else I learned from them. I learned a lot about their culture. Of course, for example, I knew about Ramadan and Eid and stuff, but I didn't know about which Eid meant. There's two Eids. And so I'm learning about that. And we're all learning about each other is, for example, when we have our student from Nepal, it's so funny. I mean, this is something all humans are guilty of. Americans were some of the worst. They would look at an Asian person, for example, and say, oh, Chinese. Chinese, everybody's FMA is Chinese. They take or they speak Chinese, which is so vastly untrue. I mean, that's a vast generalization. It's not correct. So we've learned to say, and they vast, they ask each other now, oh, what language do you speak in your country? We have a girl from Nepal, and I'll admit she looks like she could speak Chinese, but she doesn't. She speaks Nepalese and she speaks actually some indie. Interesting. Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2514.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Right in between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2596.0,2598.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2598.0,2599.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: South Asia,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2599.0,2600.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2600.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Himalayas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2601.0,2601.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah. So yeah, they all bring something to the table, like I said, and we're all learning and I'm learning. So it's a great experience. I think everyone's taken away a lot from it culturally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2601.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: So what do you want for your students in the future when you see them, when you hear about their families, their stories, their struggles, and the successes that they're having by learning English, what do you wish for them and what do you want them to take out from learning English?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2625.0,2647.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Right? Yeah, I do have hopes and high hopes and expectations for them, which makes me think on one hand, yeah, I should crack the whip more and give them more homework and make sure they really do their work. But what I'm saying, I'm saying that because I have such a respect and I get so much joy just out of being with these people because I'm a people person myself, that sometimes I forget. I'm teaching them English. I'm here to teach them English, not just enjoy their company, but I mean in enjoying their company, they're learning. It's a wonderful way to learn English really, as far as the specific answer, kind of deviated there. And I'm kind of indirectly answering your question, but of course I want them to enjoy English. And that's one reason from my approach","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2647.0,2720.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: That we do a lot of interacting. I want them to enjoy English. I want them to like it. I want them to want to learn it and want to use it. And then I want them to feel free and comfortable to express themselves in English and to increase their expressive, expressive ability. I mean, receptively. Yeah, we all usually receptive language precedes your expressive abilities. So within the classroom we do the listening and everything, but I want them to improve their expressive ability. So I want them to first be comfortable and then to have more opportunity to use it. So I hope they improve their English, get jobs, improve their English, get good jobs, get better jobs, meet more Americans or Americans like themselves, Americans who might be immigrants as well, but they would have to speak English to where English would be the common language. So they can improve, they can use their English and improve their and have a need for the English, not just work, not just for work, but for a lifetime. So I would love, that's my goal, is to see them having English for a lifetime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2720.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: And what are your hopes for yourself as a professional?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2820.0,2825.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Okay, I'm going to answer that again indirectly because I just thought of something before you asked that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2825.0,2834.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes, as we mentioned, I lived in Japan. I didn't learn Japanese for a lifetime and I could have should have. So I don't want them to have that experience. I want my students to learn English for a lifetime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2834.0,2854.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I learned Japanese when I was there. I used it daily conversation. I got around, I got by, I could shop and eat and travel and ask questions about directions. But there was so many, that's just conversational language. That's just daily. But there's a lot more to the language than that. And then I've even forgotten that. So I did not take away enough when I was abroad. Now they're living here. Chances are they have more opportunity to dive in and learn more English and take away more English. But definitely that's my hope for them. And my hope for myself is that I can improve my ability to get them to express themselves more and want to express themselves more and use English more and be comfortable and confident in their abilities. So I want to be a better teacher. That's my goal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2854.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: You sound like a wonderful teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2924.0,2927.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2927.0,2929.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: There's always more. There's always, again, like we said with the technology and the different modalities and knowing when to use and jumping around from the different, when to use the book, when to go to the computer, when to use the apps. And it's good. It's a learning curve. But I mean there's, the program, like I said, is very fine tuned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2929.0,2967.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yes. Well, this is a little bit different of what I had planned to ask people, but now that you brought up technology, we are dealing with the widespread use of artificial intelligence. Have you seen that among your students? And do you see it beneficial in language learning or not? What are the advantages or disadvantages, how you see that new reality that we're all living in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2967.0,2994.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: That's a good question. I think I have one student, one young, he's very young. Young, young African student. Yeah, nice kid. Really, right? Nice kid. He uses his phone a lot. And I think there was one time maybe where he couldn't understand something and then he's on his phone and he, to questioned what we were doing or what I was doing or the question, the vocabulary, not questioned my method or anything, but he was questioning what he was learning. And somehow he must have missed, he must have missed, had a miscue or a misread or the technology wasn't the translation, something was off or something. Because he was saying back to me another word in English, and he was like, does this mean that? And I was confused and I was like, no, no, no, that's very different. So I guess my point is technology is a great thing, but it can backfire. I don't have the, we're teaching ESL, if you're teaching in the colleges and stuff. Yeah, GPT and all the AI can be even a greater problem I've heard. But in my classroom here, I don't see a big issue except something like that where it can maybe just mislead you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=2994.0,3100.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: But there's nothing extremely negative about it. It's not like they're using it. It's not like they're using it to cheat or get away with something, or it's just that they're using it to improve. But it might just be a mislead, misleading. Yeah, I think that's the only thing I can see with the technology and my level at our level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3100.0,3130.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah, that's interesting. And your positive attitude about the new technologies is what made me ask you that question that for some teachers, they considerate a hindrance or not an enhancement. And maybe it's something that we need to look into how to make it as an enhancement to our teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3130.0,3155.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3155.0,3156.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: It can be,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3156.0,3157.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: You're right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3157.0,3158.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: How we use it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3158.0,3159.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes. How and when. Yeah, exactly. It's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3159.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah. You have children, young adult children and teenagers, and you have students in your class that are young too. Are there adults and are young adults? So what do you see? You teach younger kids, but you are familiar with teenagers now here in America,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3165.0,3188.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: From your home and now looking at young people from other countries, do you see any significant difference in the approach to learning or a general attitude to learning at that stage when you were a young adult?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3188.0,3214.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Maybe slightly. I would just say maybe the young ones maybe need a little bit more. Maybe they tend to get bored more easily with traditional learning and traditional methods. Or they might be, well, young ones are always shy. They could be shy when it comes to, okay, let's role play, right? Anytime you have role plays, sometimes the young ones can be shy. So I guess what I mean is, but that's always been, that's changed about that, the shyness. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3214.0,3270.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Some students, and we know some students come from work, they're very hard, they work hard, they're tired, they don't want to get up and fool around and role play. That's always an issue. Sometimes that's an issue that they don't want to role play. They'd rather just sit. Conversely, some younger students want to get up and they get bored easily. So then you do need to do, I wouldn't say scaffolding, that's more for ESL, I mean for special ed. But what I mean is you do need to differentiate all of the methods of learning. You need to make it kinesthetic. You need to, okay, maybe now we'll sit and we'll do some drills. Whatever you have to do, some certain times you have to do listen and repeat for pronunciation. But then there's other times you have to definitely get them up and get the blood flowing and get them moving. So I guess what I'm saying is some of the young ones, because of technology and their phones, they're so used to being entertained with TikTok and whatnot that sometimes they can get bored with instruction. And of course, we're not standing and instructing for lengthy times. But with the structure, for example, if you're doing grammatical structure, you have your target language, you have to present it first, and then you Mix in and match how you're going to practice it and stuff. So I guess maybe once or twice I saw the phone and perhaps he was bored, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3270.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: We just have to keep them on their toes and just make it fun and make it exciting. And as much as we can, certain parts of any learning, it is boring. You can't make it all excitement. So yeah, I guess that's all I can think of that some of them I can bored easily. So used to being stimulated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3402.0,3431.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Right? With young people, that seems to be an issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3431.0,3435.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3435.0,3436.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: You have people from all over the world and there is always, not, everyone is always welcoming of people from different places. And what is the feeling among your students about the United States and Americans, and how would you introduce Americans to the world through our migrant communities? How you feel about that based on your experience as an ESL teacher?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3436.0,3468.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Okay. Alright. Miriam, hold on. I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3468.0,3473.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Let's repeat the question. So first, how do your students feel in this country? What are their perspectives about Americans, how they feel treated or what they think about Americans? Has that exchange ever happened? Let's go over that first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3473.0,3492.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I think we can go over that for, I'd say I've not seen any, they've never disclosed any huge details to me or nothing big or serious or negative. Again, I'm teaching the beginners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3492.0,3511.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I could imagine in level four or five maybe they could discuss and talk about some issues that they might be having. But generally, all my students, I believe so far like it here and have had positive experiences. Of course, I'm sure they have had some negative, I mean everybody does, but they've never mentioned it to me. Never really what I could ascertain just from the conversations we had and this and that. They seem pretty comfortable here. And they seem to like America or Americans or, I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying politically or anything. No, of course not. But they seem to be, I think that's positive. Their perspective is positive. That's what I could feel. That's what I could pretty much shift. That's what I'm feeling from them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3511.0,3575.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Do you think if Americans get to know more foreign people, they would be more open to them? Or what are the things that these diversity and cultural experiences brings to the country? Brings to Jersey City, to Hudson County?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3575.0,3589.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3589.0,3590.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3590.0,3590.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: A good question. I mean, I think definitely America is a big country and there's always, I think humans, humanity. I think we just need to be exposed to other people really. And I think there are Americans who, I think it's just uneducated. They're naive or ignorant, I don't know. They're unaware of people from A, B, c, D of countries. They're unaware of these immigrants and foreigners or their country, their culture. I mean, there definitely are some people who are nothing we can do about that. But I think for the most part, I think Americans, if Americans are exposed to our immigrants, these immigrants are immigrants. These foreigners. Foreigners coming here. I mean, we're all foreigners really. I think they are comfortable with it. And I also think that's a positive thing, are okay with it. And I think, yeah, I mean I grew up here as we know Hudson County, it's always been broad. And my father, the way we raised and everything, we were always open to everybody and anyone, we never really, we were always colorblind and learned how to be culture blind. But that's even harder though, I think. I'm sorry, now I'm getting really philosophical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3590.0,3711.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: No, no, this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3711.0,3713.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Is very, please go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3713.0,3716.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: We learned that's something you learn too in even college is color blind versus color conscious. Always colorblind. I was always colorblind. Culture is another story. I was actually thinking about that recently. I think foreign culture, for the most part that I've been exposed to is positive. I like it and I enjoy it. Yeah, they do things differently. Maybe they're different, God, whatever. But I don't have an issue with that. I mean, nowadays our internal culture is twisted and turned. And I think though, I guess what I'm trying to say is I think it's not how people look that you, I'm talking maybe for other Americans, it's not only, it's not how people look and how they might look differently, it's how they act and how they, it's the culture they bring that's harder for people to understand","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3716.0,3791.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: And to accept, you know what I mean? And I guess that makes sense. But anywhere and everywhere even. And then like I said, even internally. So I dunno, I don't want to get too philosophical, but I think exposing Americans to foreigners is a good thing and a great thing. And I think Americans should be more exposed to it, should learn more about foreigners, should know more about what these people are, who they are, what they do, where they're from, what they're doing here, why they're here, what they want from us, what they want from here. And maybe come, I dunno, come to some understanding with that. Yes,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3791.0,3852.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's fantastic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3852.0,3854.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yes, yes. Sorry about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3854.0,3855.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: No, no, no, not apologize. This is all very, very interesting. Is there anything you'd like to add? Something that you have been thinking that you wanted to share with the Jersey City memory project about your experiences in the A SL classrooms and in your life here in Jersey City or in Hudson County?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3855.0,3879.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah. Okay. I could share something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3879.0,3900.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I wish more Americans could be like me. I wish more people could be open, more open-minded and accepting and tolerant of different culture and different people and different languages. I think that's something Americans can do and can do better. Conversely, I'm going to say I don't want to go on a limb here or I don't want to be, again, I'm trying not to be judgmental. I don't want to throw any group under the bus or anything. But so Americans can definitely do a better job being open-minded and accepting and tolerant of immigrants and foreigners, especially foreigners who come to the country and they want to learn English. They're here. They want to learn our language. They want to be a part of our society. That's a beautiful thing. And then conversely back to what I was going to say, I'm sorry I deviate a lot. I jump around back and forth, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3900.0,3983.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I should have been a politician, right? Yeah. Conversely though, and this is my last, this is all I want to say. And I think for the most part, most foreigners do the right thing and they do their part. So Americans have to do their part being tolerant and, and I think the foreigners that come here, I think to do their part, and I see, I think of it as their part in being, yes, come here with your culture. Come here with your religion, come here with your language. Keep your customs, your food, your clothing custom and culture is everything. We know what culture is. Culture is food. It is customs, it is language. Culture is everything really. Sports and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=3983.0,4041.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I mean, I see the Indians in the park the other day. We went to the park the other day after I'm deviating again. We went to the park the other day after our language class. It was our last class. I had a picnic with my students. Oh, that's nice. At the park to culminate the school year, the, that's lovely. End of the curriculum. And they were live local Indians and they were playing their Indians, Pakistan, I'm not sure. But they were playing cricket. Good for them. It's beautiful. It's great. So bring all your stuff. But I just hope that the foreigners who come here, when they come here, they don't expect that they come open-minded as well. And also don't expect Americans to change or don't expect to change of cultural standards here or something. Or of course our standards can expand. But I guess what I'm trying to say is for the foreigners that come here, I want them to also be open-minded as well. Don't come and say, oh, well I'm not going to learn English. I don't need it. They speak Spanish. Or in Jersey City, I don't need it. Or the mail, the letters from the school comes in Hindi too, or whatever. Not they speak English anyway, the Indians. But I'm just saying whatever,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4041.0,4150.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Be accepting and not only expect acceptance, but be accepting too. Absolutely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4150.0,4156.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Yeah. That's all I think. Yeah. And on a fun note, I mean, sometimes names can be difficult. So if we don't get your name right, tell us again politely and we'll be polite and say, I'm sorry, I can't say your name. I'm trying, maybe consider Nick, I'm sorry. But when I went to Japan and a lot of people, Joseph wasn't that easy. So I would say call me Joe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4156.0,4185.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4185.0,4187.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: I know. I'm just saying you could be, both parties have to be adaptive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4187.0,4194.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4194.0,4195.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: All I'm,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4195.0,4195.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: We both have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4195.0,4196.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: That's my last comment and that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4196.0,4198.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah. This is wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4198.0,4200.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4200.0,4201.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4201.0,4201.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Thank you. I'm sorry if it's going to be hard to listen to though, because it's scattered and all over,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4201.0,4206.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: But No, it's not. It's the way. Thank you so much. No, it's your voice and your story, and that's very important. That's part of history. That is why we do oral history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4206.0,4219.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: Oh, good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4219.0,4220.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"MD: I'm glad. Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4220.0,4221.0"},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"JL: You're welcome. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975#t=4221.0,4187.544"}]},{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://jclibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3515/collection_resources/163063/file/296975/transcript/86673/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/086/673/original/TJCMP-01_0021_T01.docx?1762630920","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/086/673/original/TJCMP-01_0021_T01.docx?1762630920"}]}]}]}